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PhAIL

Real-robot benchmark for AI models

Details

External ID
47589797
Source
HN
Company
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Product
PhAIL
Website domain
phail.ai
Launched
March 31, 2026
Cohort
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Upvotes
21
Upvotes percentile
0.7503075030750308
Tags
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Fetched at
Sept. 7, 2026, 9:26 p.m.
Updated at
Sept. 7, 2026, 9:26 p.m.

Description

I built this because I couldn't find honest numbers on how well VLA models [1] actually work on commercial tasks. I come from search ranking at Google where you measure everything, and in robotics nobody seemed to know.PhAIL runs four models (OpenPI/pi0.5, GR00T, ACT, SmolVLA) on bin-to-bin order picking – one of the most common warehouse operations. Same robot (Franka FR3), same objects, hundreds of blind runs. The operator doesn't know which model is running.Best model: 64 UPH. Human teleoperating the same robot: 330. Human by hand: 1,300+.Everything is public – every run with synced video and telemetry, the fine-tuning dataset, training scripts. The leaderboard is open for submissions.Happy to answer questions about methodology, the models, or what we observed.[1] Vision-Language-Action: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision-language-action_model

Enrichment

Theme
embodied AI and robotics platforms
Vertical
Horizontal
Function
Observability & eval
Audience
Developer
AI stance
Not AI
Project type
Commercial product
Normalized one-liner
benchmark testing for ai models using real robots
Manually corrected
False

Could you build this?

No PhAIL evaluates Vision-Language-Action (VLA) models on real physical robotic hardware (Franka FR3 + Robotiq gripper) across commercial manipulation tasks. Physical robot integration, real-world hardware test environments, and physical benchmark automation cannot be vibe-coded.

What it would actually take: A real implementation requires physical robotic hardware (e.g., Franka Emika FR3 arms, Robotiq grippers, calibrated camera rigs), low-level robot control software (ROS2, real-time Linux kernels), and an automated physical resetting harness. The software pipeline runs inference for complex VLA models (OpenPI, GR00T, ACT) in real-time control loops, logs trajectory data, and computes standardized manipulation metrics. It demands deep robotics engineering, physical lab space, hardware maintenance, and vision-motor calibration expertise.

Discussion

8 comments analyzed.

Competitors mentioned: DreamZero (NVIDIA), Remote teleoperation solutions for robotics, Simulation-based benchmarks

Concerns raised: Speed of robot model performance gap narrowing, Real-world vs simulation performance discrepancy

Feature requests: Add more robot models to leaderboard, Benchmark for manipulation tasks specifically

Competitors

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Attention rank: #25 of 100 (itself plus its competitors, highest first — normalized so YC and Product Hunt are compared fairly).

Launched 143 days after the earliest competitor.

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