Veil
Zero-knowledge messenger with post-quantum encryption
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Details
- External ID
- 50015160
- Source
- HN
- Company
- —
- Product
- Veil
- Website domain
- tryveil.app
- Launched
- Oct. 9, 2026
- Cohort
- —
- Upvotes
- 6
- Upvotes percentile
- 0.27
- Tags
- —
Enrichment
- Niche
- private and secure messaging apps
- Vertical
- Security
- Function
- Communication
- Audience
- Prosumer
- AI stance
- Not AI
- Project type
- Commercial product
- Normalized one-liner
- zero-knowledge messenger with post-quantum encryption
- Manually corrected
- False
Could you build this?
No True post-quantum end-to-end zero-knowledge messaging requires specialized cryptographic expertise to implement and verify algorithms like ML-KEM/Kyber without security vulnerabilities.
What it would actually take: A real post-quantum zero-knowledge messenger requires implementing post-quantum ratchets (e.g., Signal protocol augmented with Kyber/ML-KEM and Dilithium/ML-DSA) alongside zero-knowledge identity mechanisms (e.g., zk-SNARKs for anonymous group membership or blinded tokens). The architecture needs low-latency WebSocket signaling, secure decentralized or zero-knowledge key exchanges, and formal security/cryptographic audits by specialized cryptographers to prevent side-channel leaks.
Discussion
1 comment analyzed.
Concerns raised: Not open-source or self-hostable
Feature requests: Open-source release, Self-hosting option
Competitors
Other products that read as similar to this one — 372 launches clear the similarity bar, closest 8 shown.
Attention rank: #266 of 373 (itself plus its competitors, highest first — normalized so YC and Product Hunt are compared fairly).
Launched 338 days after the earliest competitor.
- scuttle · github · 2026-09-23 · 55 upvotes · similarity 0.67
- dirac_quantum · github · 2026-10-12 · 98 upvotes · similarity 0.63
- Quantum computing experiments with honest classical baselines · hn · 2026-10-06 · 9 upvotes · similarity 0.60
- Wisp. A peer-to-peer encrypted messenger with no trusted server · hn · 2026-07-29 · 5 upvotes · similarity 0.59
- Age-PHP: a PHP implementation of age encryption (post-quantum) · hn · 2026-04-11 · 6 upvotes · similarity 0.58
- Coda — Natural language quantum computing · yc · 2026-01-21 · 10 upvotes · similarity 0.56
- CardGo · hn · 2026-08-30 · 5 upvotes · similarity 0.55
- Kant · github · 2026-09-20 · 10 upvotes · similarity 0.54
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