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On Making Music with the Machine

Details

External ID
46416488
Source
HN
Company
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Product
On Making Music with the Machine
Website domain
substack.com
Launched
Dec. 29, 2025
Cohort
—
Upvotes
6
Upvotes percentile
0.2652671755725191
Tags
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Fetched at
Sept. 7, 2026, 9:25 p.m.
Updated at
Sept. 7, 2026, 9:25 p.m.

Description

Have been making music using ML/AI tools for about as long as I've been on HN. Had a recent comment section on HN here [1] and after that thought it might be worthwhile to write out about the journey in greater detail... from crude LSTM models, to hacking around with Jukebox, and now Suno.[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45388822

Enrichment

Theme
ai music and audio creation
Vertical
Media & entertainment
Function
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Audience
B2C
AI stance
AI feature
Project type
Hobby / open-source project
Normalized one-liner
ai-generated music creation
Manually corrected
False

Could you build this?

No This is an essay/blog post documenting the author's journey using machine learning models for music generation over the years rather than a software product to vibe-code.

What it would actually take: As an educational essay, there is no software product to reverse engineer. If referring to building an underlying generative music engine like Jukebox or Suno, it requires multi-modal diffusion or autoregressive audio models trained across petabytes of copyrighted music on GPU clusters with specialized DSP and ML audio engineering.

Discussion

8 comments analyzed.

Competitors mentioned: Udio, Traditional music creation (vocal chords, violin)

Concerns raised: Copyright ownership unclear - AI-generated music may not be copyrightable under US law, Spotify distribution of AI music creates legal/financial risk, Not genuine songwriting - lacks human authorship required by law, Output quality concerns - results described as 'slop' without significant curation effort

Competitors

Other products that read as similar to this one — 192 launches clear the similarity bar, closest 8 shown.

Attention rank: #157 of 193 (itself plus its competitors, highest first — normalized so YC and Product Hunt are compared fairly).

Launched 61 days after the earliest competitor.

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